Police 'considering business experts for senior roles'

Gazette & Herald: Chief Constable Dave Jones Chief Constable Dave Jones

BUSINESS executives could replace senior police officers in North Yorkshire, under new plans being considered by the force.

Direct entry was introduced by the Government last year to widen the talent pool of applicants for police roles, and allows members of the private or commercial sector to join the police force in senior positions without any policing experience.

West Yorkshire Police recently announced it would be the first in the UK to adopt the scheme to advertise for Superintendent positions, and it is one of several initiatives currently being considered by North Yorkshire Police.

A spokesman confirmed to The Press that direct entry “is something that North Yorkshire Police is considering”, but Chief Constable Dave Jones made it clear no decision had been made and discussions were in the early stages.

Mr Jones said: “There are many things to consider when looking at direct entry, however it is important that I get good people so I can be confident that all eventualities can be dealt with. I am not in a position to say at this time whether we will or will not adopt the direct entry scheme.”

Julia Mulligan, Police and Crime Commissioner for North Yorkshire, said the idea was “an interesting new development", and welcomed "innovation designed to enhance policing and provide a better service to victims".

She said: “It also raises the possibility of fast-tracking specialist skills into the service. For example, customer service expertise might aid our quest in developing a more victim-centric approach. Plus some civilians have knowledge that could be very useful in particular areas such as online crime and fraud. I will watch with interest as West Yorkshire Police progress their plans.”

Mike Stubbs, secretary of North Yorkshire Police Federation, said: "North Yorkshire Police has a broad range of talent already within the organisation. We recruit officers, not only in their 20’s, but in their 30’s and 40’s, many of whom have had significant experience in other employment sectors, and they bring a wide variety of skills with them.

"They have to demonstrate they can deliver policing on the streets before they can progress through the organisation. That operational experience is essential when dealing with the sort of critical incidents that police commanders have to manage.

“At the moment, the direct entry scheme is an experiment which is both unproven and expensive. I am sure there are senior police officers who could have a good crack at running a branch of Morrison’s or Asda. But, if it goes badly, they might end up with empty shelves or all the wrong products in stock at the wrong time. Consequences in the police environment can be far more grave.”

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9:28am Fri 14 Mar 14

X5019c says...

The problem with the Police is that there is a large proportion of them that are thick. Years of continuous reduction in entry requirements to meet government targets on race/gender and to prevent discrimination from those that need a ladder to climb into a car have seen the force flooded with officers that would find it difficult to tie their own boot laces. Bringing in outsiders from the commercial sector might have some small benefit but what it really needed is to do away with the positive bias given to recruiting from all minorities and get back to basics. Or is this just another way of giving "job's to the boy's" a la Police and Crime Commissioner's?
The problem with the Police is that there is a large proportion of them that are thick. Years of continuous reduction in entry requirements to meet government targets on race/gender and to prevent discrimination from those that need a ladder to climb into a car have seen the force flooded with officers that would find it difficult to tie their own boot laces. Bringing in outsiders from the commercial sector might have some small benefit but what it really needed is to do away with the positive bias given to recruiting from all minorities and get back to basics. Or is this just another way of giving "job's to the boy's" a la Police and Crime Commissioner's? X5019c
  • Score: 5

9:39am Fri 14 Mar 14

meme says...

It would be a good idea to have people who understand different aspects of life ie business etc to assist in helping understand the way in which fraud etc works rather than starting on each case from scratch
I welcome this proposal
It would be a good idea to have people who understand different aspects of life ie business etc to assist in helping understand the way in which fraud etc works rather than starting on each case from scratch I welcome this proposal meme
  • Score: -2

10:25am Fri 14 Mar 14

BL2 says...

This is ridiculous. The pushing of everything as a "business" must stop now! You need people in senior roles who understand the police force and it's problems, not someone who wants it to make money or meet a budget! By all means employee people to help in special cases, but not run things!
This is ridiculous. The pushing of everything as a "business" must stop now! You need people in senior roles who understand the police force and it's problems, not someone who wants it to make money or meet a budget! By all means employee people to help in special cases, but not run things! BL2
  • Score: 8

10:57am Fri 14 Mar 14

ian923 says...

A serious disaster is waiting to happen if civvies are given Superintendent roles. Years of experience in policing are needed to make the correct decisions in operational and non-operational police matters at that senior level.
A serious disaster is waiting to happen if civvies are given Superintendent roles. Years of experience in policing are needed to make the correct decisions in operational and non-operational police matters at that senior level. ian923
  • Score: 8

11:34am Fri 14 Mar 14

Roger S says...

The biggest indicator of typical job performance is raw intelligence - proven. By only allowing promotion from low ranks you will end up with a lot of people out of their depth as the police force at lower levels does have basic entry requirements. Then again a number of people are attracted to the role and will want to climb the ladder. I think why say now but don't positively seek business people if experience and intelligence is available. Then again running a business you have to deal with a lot of fraud and theft - mainly from your staff.
The biggest indicator of typical job performance is raw intelligence - proven. By only allowing promotion from low ranks you will end up with a lot of people out of their depth as the police force at lower levels does have basic entry requirements. Then again a number of people are attracted to the role and will want to climb the ladder. I think why say now but don't positively seek business people if experience and intelligence is available. Then again running a business you have to deal with a lot of fraud and theft - mainly from your staff. Roger S
  • Score: 1

11:35am Fri 14 Mar 14

Roger S says...

"say no"
"say no" Roger S
  • Score: 3

3:59pm Fri 14 Mar 14

carpon says...

I personally would like to see more police patrolling and acting as a deterrent to would be criminals. The police used to be a “force “ and are now like a service.
I do not doubt the integrity of serving officers, but been a victim of crime I am told that the resources are not available to investigate fully. I personally think ALL new police officers should start on foot walking the “beat “, learn your craft and then if chosen for a fast track so be it. To appoint senior managers outside the police that only understand balance sheets is pointless long term, but it maybe is the way forward because most police officers spend must of their time filling in reports rather than been able to do their job.
You would not appoint a senior retail manager for example as an Army Captain, so why consider this for the police. If the police are treated as a business surely you have to understand the business in its entirety to manage it.
There is good and bad in every organization but police officers should be managed by experienced police officers.
I personally would like to see more police patrolling and acting as a deterrent to would be criminals. The police used to be a “force “ and are now like a service. I do not doubt the integrity of serving officers, but been a victim of crime I am told that the resources are not available to investigate fully. I personally think ALL new police officers should start on foot walking the “beat “, learn your craft and then if chosen for a fast track so be it. To appoint senior managers outside the police that only understand balance sheets is pointless long term, but it maybe is the way forward because most police officers spend must of their time filling in reports rather than been able to do their job. You would not appoint a senior retail manager for example as an Army Captain, so why consider this for the police. If the police are treated as a business surely you have to understand the business in its entirety to manage it. There is good and bad in every organization but police officers should be managed by experienced police officers. carpon
  • Score: 6

5:01pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Caecilius says...

Presumably any business executives being considered for senior positions in the police will be required to undergo security vetting, including a detailed scrutiny of their finances.
Presumably any business executives being considered for senior positions in the police will be required to undergo security vetting, including a detailed scrutiny of their finances. Caecilius
  • Score: 2

5:04pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Caecilius says...

Roger S wrote:
The biggest indicator of typical job performance is raw intelligence - proven. By only allowing promotion from low ranks you will end up with a lot of people out of their depth as the police force at lower levels does have basic entry requirements. Then again a number of people are attracted to the role and will want to climb the ladder. I think why say now but don't positively seek business people if experience and intelligence is available. Then again running a business you have to deal with a lot of fraud and theft - mainly from your staff.
Unless you're committing the fraud yourself, of course.
[quote][p][bold]Roger S[/bold] wrote: The biggest indicator of typical job performance is raw intelligence - proven. By only allowing promotion from low ranks you will end up with a lot of people out of their depth as the police force at lower levels does have basic entry requirements. Then again a number of people are attracted to the role and will want to climb the ladder. I think why say now but don't positively seek business people if experience and intelligence is available. Then again running a business you have to deal with a lot of fraud and theft - mainly from your staff.[/p][/quote]Unless you're committing the fraud yourself, of course. Caecilius
  • Score: 3

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