Local MPs divided over plans to boost their pay packet 11 per cent at a time of public austerity

Gazette & Herald: Anne McIntosh Anne McIntosh

A NORTH YORKSHIRE MP has slammed plans to boost Parliamentarians’ pay by 11 per cent while other public sector pay increases have been capped at one per cent, and has pledged to donate any rise she gets to charity.

Malton and Thirsk MP Anne McIntosh has criticised plans to put up salaries, announced by the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA), the body in charge of MPs’ pay.

The Tory MP said she was “shocked and hugely disappointed” that IPSA had ignored pleas from the government to consider wider austerity measures and not award large pay rises to MPs.

She said: “I would have no hesitation in donating any inappropriate increase to charity and will invite constituents to nominate the most worthy cause for this purpose.”

But both York Central MP Hugh Bayley and York Outer MP Julian Sturdy said Parliament should not try to change IPSA’s decisions.

Mr Bayley said: “I have argued for years that MPs should not set their own pay. Now we have an independent body it should do what it believes is right, and MPs should not interfere or try to influence them in any way.”

IPSA is expected to recommend pay should go up to £74,000 after the 2015 election – 11 per cent higher than the current rate or nine per cent higher than the 2015 pay would be with normal pay increases.

Mr Sturdy said: “I welcome the proposals to scrap many of the outdated expenses, as well as the scaling back of MPs pensions and payments when they leave office. The cost of politics should be coming down, especially in light of the pay restraint across the public sector and I am disappointed that IPSA has not taken this into account.”

Prof Martin Smith, of the University of York’s politics department, said the situation was difficult to address without having a wider debate about trust in politics and the kind of MPs the public wants.

MPs could, in theory, pass a fresh law to stop IPSA putting up pay but this would bring their pay back into their own control, Prof Smith said.

But that would be problematic because some MPs believe they deserved a pay rise to bring their salaries into line with other senior public sector wages, and it give MPs control over their own pay – the very situation IPSA was set up to avoid in the wake of the expenses scandal, he said.

Prof Smith said: “I think to a degree MPs have been underpaid, so I don’t think this is that unreasonable. We don’t want a situation where the only people who are MPs are those who already have their own income.”

 

Miliband urges cross-party support to block pay rise

Labour leader Ed Miliband has called for a cross-party approach to prevent a proposed 11 per cent pay rise for MPs going ahead.

Mr Miliband is among a number of senior polticians who have condemned the plan being drawn up by the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) for a £7,600 hike in MPs’ salaries to £74,000 after the 2015 General Rlection.

Defence Secretary Philip Hammond indicated he would not accept the extra cash while armed forces’ pay was being pegged back, while Liberal Democrat Chief Secretary to the Treasury Danny Alexander said the public would find it “utterly incomprehensible” if IPSA defied concerted calls from David Cameron, Mr Miliband and Nick Clegg to show restraint.

IPSA was given responsibility for Westminster pay and perks in the wake of the expenses scandal with MPs stripped of the power to set their own pay.

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10:41am Tue 10 Dec 13

sheps lad says...

Oink oink!
Oink oink! sheps lad

10:47am Tue 10 Dec 13

MrsHoney says...

Disgusting when the rest of us haven't had a rise in years and only 1% this year! I'm not complaining about my pay, I am just glad to be in a job, but I do think it's a disgrace they don't practice what they preach!
Disgusting when the rest of us haven't had a rise in years and only 1% this year! I'm not complaining about my pay, I am just glad to be in a job, but I do think it's a disgrace they don't practice what they preach! MrsHoney

11:15am Tue 10 Dec 13

Fat Harry says...

I agree with messrs Sturdy and Bayley that MPs should not control their own salaries.

Perhaps the matter should be put to a public vote. If we could resist the mischievous temptation to vote for zero-hours contracts and payment by results, I'd vote for the suggestion that each MP be paid the average manual worker's wage.
I agree with messrs Sturdy and Bayley that MPs should not control their own salaries. Perhaps the matter should be put to a public vote. If we could resist the mischievous temptation to vote for zero-hours contracts and payment by results, I'd vote for the suggestion that each MP be paid the average manual worker's wage. Fat Harry

11:29am Tue 10 Dec 13

Dave Ruddock says...

One wounders who runs or has influence with this body. I do hope the Government hold a inquiry (at their own expence) not forgedtting they are elected not life jabs as is te case of (Similar bodies). With the various scandles over money MPs try to diddle their own government, limited pay rises in the public sector. DOT GIVE IT TO CHARITIES, REFUSE IT. thou charities would be happy. Wake Up the UK Government
One wounders who runs or has influence with this body. I do hope the Government hold a inquiry (at their own expence) not forgedtting they are elected not life jabs as is te case of (Similar bodies). With the various scandles over money MPs try to diddle their own government, limited pay rises in the public sector. DOT GIVE IT TO CHARITIES, REFUSE IT. thou charities would be happy. Wake Up the UK Government Dave Ruddock

12:13pm Tue 10 Dec 13

piaggio1 says...

IPSA.?????
Erm. Aint most of these the MP.s mates?
Most of them have never worked in the real world.
Remember...were all in this together.!
IPSA.????? Erm. Aint most of these the MP.s mates? Most of them have never worked in the real world. Remember...were all in this together.! piaggio1

12:37pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Buzzz Light-year says...

What I have to say about this story isn't printable here.
What I have to say about this story isn't printable here. Buzzz Light-year

1:32pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Jeff_li says...

I bet if the IPSA recommended that Hugh Bayley and Julian Sturdy should take a 11% CUT they would feel the need to object! Hypocrites!

Just a note on Hugh Bayley… He is in the top bracket of MPS for claiming on expenses. Last month, WE bought him an iPhone - brand new, top spec (5s 64GB £631.90 - does he really need one that expensive? Well why not, if you're not paying, why not.) and a new flat screen TV.

WE continuously pay his bills for his house in London and reimburse him for 'hospitality' costs at the office in York (tea and biscuits). He continuously claims for the maximum allowed for this, not a penny under, every month, has done for years.

2 months ago he was named amongst a list of MPs found to be 're-renting' their offices - claiming for the rent of the Labour office in York even though his party already own the building! Meaning WE are all making a donation to the Labour Party without realising it.

Don't get me wrong, the Tories and Lib Dems are just as bad across the country. It's just that Hugh Bayely is supposed to be looking out for our best interests in York. They ALL disgust me!
I bet if the IPSA recommended that Hugh Bayley and Julian Sturdy should take a 11% CUT they would feel the need to object! Hypocrites! Just a note on Hugh Bayley… He is in the top bracket of MPS for claiming on expenses. Last month, WE bought him an iPhone - brand new, top spec (5s 64GB £631.90 - does he really need one that expensive? Well why not, if you're not paying, why not.) and a new flat screen TV. WE continuously pay his bills for his house in London and reimburse him for 'hospitality' costs at the office in York (tea and biscuits). He continuously claims for the maximum allowed for this, not a penny under, every month, has done for years. 2 months ago he was named amongst a list of MPs found to be 're-renting' their offices - claiming for the rent of the Labour office in York even though his party already own the building! Meaning WE are all making a donation to the Labour Party without realising it. Don't get me wrong, the Tories and Lib Dems are just as bad across the country. It's just that Hugh Bayely is supposed to be looking out for our best interests in York. They ALL disgust me! Jeff_li

5:11pm Tue 10 Dec 13

dsom73 says...

David Bowie's starting to look his age isn't he.
David Bowie's starting to look his age isn't he. dsom73

5:37pm Tue 10 Dec 13

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

This pay rise is wrong on so many levels.
And don't be fooled by the MP's pretending to be outraged with the increase, they are trying to play to the masses with a shock horror approach, but they are just as greedy and self serving as the ones that will lap it up
Ann Mackintosh is claiming that she will donate her 11% to charity, for how long will she keep this up? once? twice? or the whole of her career?

And all I can say about Hugh Bayley is I have no doubt that he will be the first of the pigs in the trough at feeding time, just has he has proved on so many occasions.

I once picked him up when I was a Private Hire Driver many years ago, he tried to insist that I leave the amount on the receipt blank....erm....no was my reply.
This pay rise is wrong on so many levels. And don't be fooled by the MP's pretending to be outraged with the increase, they are trying to play to the masses with a shock horror approach, but they are just as greedy and self serving as the ones that will lap it up Ann Mackintosh is claiming that she will donate her 11% to charity, for how long will she keep this up? once? twice? or the whole of her career? And all I can say about Hugh Bayley is I have no doubt that he will be the first of the pigs in the trough at feeding time, just has he has proved on so many occasions. I once picked him up when I was a Private Hire Driver many years ago, he tried to insist that I leave the amount on the receipt blank....erm....no was my reply. NoNewsIsGoodNews

6:32pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Happy Chappie says...

Of course they will try to make themselves look good by saying they don't want it because they know they will get it anyway. hypocrites.
Of course they will try to make themselves look good by saying they don't want it because they know they will get it anyway. hypocrites. Happy Chappie

6:38pm Tue 10 Dec 13

courier46 says...

There should be no division on this, it is wrong and disgusting
There should be no division on this, it is wrong and disgusting courier46

8:10pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Maltonian says...

Can't believe I'm agreeing with Ms Mcintosh for once
Can't believe I'm agreeing with Ms Mcintosh for once Maltonian

9:03pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Pinza-C55 says...

"Mr Bayley said: “I have argued for years that MPs should not set their own pay. Now we have an independent body it should do what it believes is right, and MPs should not interfere or try to influence them in any way.”
Way to go Hugh! Don't disagree with an "independent body" when it lines your pockets.
And one day you will be Lord Bayley.
Isn't life great?
"Mr Bayley said: “I have argued for years that MPs should not set their own pay. Now we have an independent body it should do what it believes is right, and MPs should not interfere or try to influence them in any way.” Way to go Hugh! Don't disagree with an "independent body" when it lines your pockets. And one day you will be Lord Bayley. Isn't life great? Pinza-C55

9:06pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Pinza-C55 says...

Dave Ruddock wrote:
One wounders who runs or has influence with this body. I do hope the Government hold a inquiry (at their own expence) not forgedtting they are elected not life jabs as is te case of (Similar bodies). With the various scandles over money MPs try to diddle their own government, limited pay rises in the public sector. DOT GIVE IT TO CHARITIES, REFUSE IT. thou charities would be happy. Wake Up the UK Government
"One wounders who runs or has influence with this body. I do hope the Government hold a inquiry (at their own expence)"
The government has no money. Every penny they spend is paid for by you the taxpayer.
They get a wage rise - you pay for it.
They hold an enquiry - you pay for it.
Etc, etc.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Ruddock[/bold] wrote: One wounders who runs or has influence with this body. I do hope the Government hold a inquiry (at their own expence) not forgedtting they are elected not life jabs as is te case of (Similar bodies). With the various scandles over money MPs try to diddle their own government, limited pay rises in the public sector. DOT GIVE IT TO CHARITIES, REFUSE IT. thou charities would be happy. Wake Up the UK Government[/p][/quote]"One wounders who runs or has influence with this body. I do hope the Government hold a inquiry (at their own expence)" The government has no money. Every penny they spend is paid for by you the taxpayer. They get a wage rise - you pay for it. They hold an enquiry - you pay for it. Etc, etc. Pinza-C55

11:58pm Tue 10 Dec 13

gjh says...

I find it astounding that the Westminster parasites are powerless to stop such a large pay increase. They are able to limit my pay- for the record my income has fallen 8.3% in real terms since 2010 (thank you so much Mr Cameron and your chums)- so it should not be difficult to restrict their own. "All in it together"- what a joke. My gran used to say "I would not pay the bu**ers in washers", how true.
I find it astounding that the Westminster parasites are powerless to stop such a large pay increase. They are able to limit my pay- for the record my income has fallen 8.3% in real terms since 2010 (thank you so much Mr Cameron and your chums)- so it should not be difficult to restrict their own. "All in it together"- what a joke. My gran used to say "I would not pay the bu**ers in washers", how true. gjh

10:24am Wed 11 Dec 13

TheTruthHurts says...

Hugh has put 30 claims in for cycling allowance this year ranging from 40p to £2.40. Totalling £39.50.

The largest £2.40 claims that he cycled 12 miles. yeah right
Hugh has put 30 claims in for cycling allowance this year ranging from 40p to £2.40. Totalling £39.50. The largest £2.40 claims that he cycled 12 miles. yeah right TheTruthHurts

11:34pm Thu 12 Dec 13

topumpire1 says...

The MPs are already now bemoaning that it was "us" the public that demanded MP salaries were reviewed BY an INDEPENDENT body, not connected to themselves and many are already calling for it to be implemented, saying the public only wanted an independent review IF it gave the results that "we" wanted, although there are others who are appalled by the report.
So, ok , now lets get the independent body to review, 1/ Benefits, for those who cannot work & those who can,. but chose NOT to, claiming to be ill..
2/ the minimum / living wage and 3/ HOW it is best paid for!
Yes the MP increase WILL need funds to implement (as will the others (above) )

IF the review were to award the lowest paid, a large increase, to be paid for by higher taxation of the highest paid, so be it!.....
The MPs are already now bemoaning that it was "us" the public that demanded MP salaries were reviewed BY an INDEPENDENT body, not connected to themselves and many are already calling for it to be implemented, saying the public only wanted an independent review IF it gave the results that "we" wanted, although there are others who are appalled by the report. So, ok , now lets get the independent body to review, 1/ Benefits, for those who cannot work & those who can,. but chose NOT to, claiming to be ill.. 2/ the minimum / living wage and 3/ HOW it is best paid for! Yes the MP increase WILL need funds to implement (as will the others (above) ) IF the review were to award the lowest paid, a large increase, to be paid for by higher taxation of the highest paid, so be it!..... topumpire1

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