Flood alert after rapid thaw of snow (From Gazette & Herald)

The proposed site for the Arts Barge next to The Bonding Warehouse was inaccesible due to flooding for periods at the end of September, end of November, around Christmas and it looks like a repeat performance is on the cards, not to mention the thick silt that needs to be cleared each time after the waters have receeded before access can be gained. Not a great business plan especially considering the amount of Council Tax that has been promised to the venture.

No one seems prepared, or willing to prepare, people ignore warnings not to travel - they bring their problems upon themselves, then expect someone else to sort them out, endangering the lives of others and costing the taxpayer! Every non emergency own cause rescue should be billed back to them, people would soon wise up.

bob the builder wrote:
No one seems prepared, or willing to prepare, people ignore warnings not to travel - they bring their problems upon themselves, then expect someone else to sort them out, endangering the lives of others and costing the taxpayer! Every non emergency own cause rescue should be billed back to them, people would soon wise up.

I wonder how the repairs to the fire chiefs BMW X5 are going after the last floods?

Mulgrave wrote:

bob the builder wrote:
No one seems prepared, or willing to prepare, people ignore warnings not to travel - they bring their problems upon themselves, then expect someone else to sort them out, endangering the lives of others and costing the taxpayer! Every non emergency own cause rescue should be billed back to them, people would soon wise up.

I wonder how the repairs to the fire chiefs BMW X5 are going after the last floods?

"What a stupid thing to come out with,it will have been repaired ages ago."

Last week it was "Oh my God, it's so cold, we're all going to get snowed in and die". Now it's "Oh my God, we're all going to be submerged in thawing snow and rainwater and die". Presumably next week after a couple of dry days it will be "Oh my God, I'm so dehydrated and can't legally use a hosepipe, we're all going to die". I cannot roll my eyes any more than I am doing right now.

Mulgrave wrote:
The proposed site for the Arts Barge next to The Bonding Warehouse was inaccesible due to flooding for periods at the end of September, end of November, around Christmas and it looks like a repeat performance is on the cards, not to mention the thick silt that needs to be cleared each time after the waters have receeded before access can be gained. Not a great business plan especially considering the amount of Council Tax that has been promised to the venture.

Whoever drew up the business plan will have factored this in.
Duh.

bob the builder wrote:
No one seems prepared, or willing to prepare, people ignore warnings not to travel - they bring their problems upon themselves, then expect someone else to sort them out, endangering the lives of others and costing the taxpayer! Every non emergency own cause rescue should be billed back to them, people would soon wise up.

Some people HAVE to travel! And shut up with your boring monotonous "tax payer" BS!!

Buzz Light-year wrote:

Mulgrave wrote:
The proposed site for the Arts Barge next to The Bonding Warehouse was inaccesible due to flooding for periods at the end of September, end of November, around Christmas and it looks like a repeat performance is on the cards, not to mention the thick silt that needs to be cleared each time after the waters have receeded before access can be gained. Not a great business plan especially considering the amount of Council Tax that has been promised to the venture.

Whoever drew up the business plan will have factored this in.
Duh.

Are you sure?, it is a 'destination' venue as it is off the beaten track, and the project wanted this location way back in the days when drought was the headline, not the second wettest year ever ( only missed first by a few mm ), with the possibility that a change in the jet stream may make recent weather patterns the norm.

let's be honest, if CYC drew up the "Business Plan" it's doomed. I am for the Arts barge though. York's being rubbish since the floods of 2000 and the loss of The Bonding Warehouse / The Arts Centre for this kind of stuff.

Moan about trendy winebars. Moan about old man pubs costing too much, moan about PubCos costing too much, moan about an alternative. Boo hoo.

Hey Arts Barge lot, if it has had a business plan drawn up by the bumbling waste of incompetence that is CYC, do a fundraiser to make sure this plan stacks up please? Ta.

Surely the Arts Barge project is grown up enough to do their own business plan?
Why would CYC be doing it?
Just so whiners can slag them off?

Mulgrave: Your revelations about the river Ouse came as a surprise to me. So it floods sometimes does it? You should contact the Arts Barge Project immediately with this vital information before it is too late.

Honestly...

/kev/null wrote:
Mulgrave: Your revelations about the river Ouse came as a surprise to me. So it floods sometimes does it? You should contact the Arts Barge Project immediately with this vital information before it is too late.

Honestly...

Looks like I am the only one to see the flaws in this... established businesses have to take their chances, such as the pubs and river cruises etc. However the primary object of the project is a community arts and performance base, and as far as I am aware, 'affordability' is why it is being based on a barge, as there is no particular connection to the river. There is quite alot of comment that this might not be a perfect location due to it being 'out of the way', and in a ' normal' year I would expect this site to be under water once, ie perhaps for 7 - 10 days, bearing in mind that CYC have to remove the barricades and clean the road. The point I was making is that from September, assuming this flood is similar to the others, that is 28 - 40 days when the barge cannot operate. Added to this is the perception that the venue may be closed, as happens with the City when flooding gets reported on BBC etc. Who pays the acts that can't perform due to no fault of their own, the staff that can't work? In part me and other Council tax payers, those who think I am so wide of the mark, how about putting your cash into it, and cut out CYC?