Call for council tax rise to pay for more police officers

Gazette & Herald: Julia Mulligan Julia Mulligan

THE Police and Crime Commissioner for North Yorkshire has proposed an increase to the force’s share of council tax which will pay for 24 new officers.

Julia Mulligan recommended an increase in the precept by 1.99 per cent, the equivalent of eight pence a week or £4.07 a year for a Band D property.

She said the increase would help maintain the number of police officers on the street.

Last year, Mrs Mulligan and Chief Constable Dave Jones agreed to increase the number of officers from 1,270 to 1,392, and the precept raise will fund 24 of the posts.

Funding for the remainder of the roles will come from up to £10 million in savings planned around the organisation.

The increase has now been put to public consultation.

Mrs Mulligan said: “I am doing my best to ensure that North Yorkshire Police has the resources and police officers it needs to keep people safe.

“The public has been clear that police officers on the beat are their number-one priority.

“ Everyone now has a chance to say whether or not they accept the cost of this at an average of just over £4 a year per household.”

Anyone wishing to comment on the proposal should go to northyorkshire-pcc.gov.uk and click the ‘precept’ button.

Alternatively phone 01423 569562, email info@northyorkshire-pcc.gov.uk or write to Freepost RTCL-AGAE-TRTS, Police and Crime Commissioner for North Yorkshire, 12 Granby Road, Harrogate, HG1 4ST, before January 31.

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8:11am Wed 15 Jan 14

Kevin Turvey says...

Or better still if your role of ‘Police and Crime Commissioner’ was removed with all its overheads of your high salary, swanky office space, admin support, expense account and no need for the cost of an election to the post etc., they or at least some of the number could be provided for with the existing budget at no extra burden to the already over stretched council tax payer.

Your role is not front line policing so should be the first to go for cost savings.

That is the reality.
Or better still if your role of ‘Police and Crime Commissioner’ was removed with all its overheads of your high salary, swanky office space, admin support, expense account and no need for the cost of an election to the post etc., they or at least some of the number could be provided for with the existing budget at no extra burden to the already over stretched council tax payer. Your role is not front line policing so should be the first to go for cost savings. That is the reality. Kevin Turvey

8:35am Wed 15 Jan 14

Dick Turpin says...

How much money are North Yorkshire Police spending on very expensive Agency Staff?
How much money are North Yorkshire Police spending on very expensive Agency Staff? Dick Turpin

8:37am Wed 15 Jan 14

The OX says...

Get the Pubs/night clubs and hotels to stump up more as its them that needed with all the stag/hen partys Friday/Sat/Sun, they get the profit so let them pay
Get the Pubs/night clubs and hotels to stump up more as its them that needed with all the stag/hen partys Friday/Sat/Sun, they get the profit so let them pay The OX

9:00am Wed 15 Jan 14

chelk says...

Kevin Turvey wrote:
Or better still if your role of ‘Police and Crime Commissioner’ was removed with all its overheads of your high salary, swanky office space, admin support, expense account and no need for the cost of an election to the post etc., they or at least some of the number could be provided for with the existing budget at no extra burden to the already over stretched council tax payer.

Your role is not front line policing so should be the first to go for cost savings.

That is the reality.
My thoughts as well her position is not needed
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Turvey[/bold] wrote: Or better still if your role of ‘Police and Crime Commissioner’ was removed with all its overheads of your high salary, swanky office space, admin support, expense account and no need for the cost of an election to the post etc., they or at least some of the number could be provided for with the existing budget at no extra burden to the already over stretched council tax payer. Your role is not front line policing so should be the first to go for cost savings. That is the reality.[/p][/quote]My thoughts as well her position is not needed chelk

9:35am Wed 15 Jan 14

MouseHouse says...

The public showed their opinion of, and the value they see in, the role of ‘Police and Crime Commissioner' with the very low turnout at the elections.

These roles are a waste of time, effort, money and resources.
The public showed their opinion of, and the value they see in, the role of ‘Police and Crime Commissioner' with the very low turnout at the elections. These roles are a waste of time, effort, money and resources. MouseHouse

9:44am Wed 15 Jan 14

Pete the Brickie says...

I object to paying any more council tax for this service on the pretence of improving front line numbers whilst there is still so much work to be done on improving efficiency and making savings in other areas, even if it is only £4.00 a year. The replacing of a Police Authority with an elected Commissioner has actually saved money, but Mrs Mulligan has then gone to waste it herself, which has to put into her statement below into question and indeed makes it look hypocritical.



Mrs Mulligan said: “I am doing my best to ensure that North Yorkshire Police has the resources and police officers it needs to keep people safe.

“The public has been clear that police officers on the beat are their number-one priority.

I object to paying any more council tax for this service on the pretence of improving front line numbers whilst there is still so much work to be done on improving efficiency and making savings in other areas, even if it is only £4.00 a year. The replacing of a Police Authority with an elected Commissioner has actually saved money, but Mrs Mulligan has then gone to waste it herself, which has to put into her statement below into question and indeed makes it look hypocritical. [quote] Mrs Mulligan said: “I am doing my best to ensure that North Yorkshire Police has the resources and police officers it needs to keep people safe. “The public has been clear that police officers on the beat are their number-one priority. [/quote] Pete the Brickie

9:46am Wed 15 Jan 14

Roger S says...

Oh yeah the ox, the pubs are doing really well at the moment in North Yorkshire....

Why don't we cut public sector holidays to the statutory minimum and lower wages back to a realistic level to pay for more officers?

Surely some of these people on benefits can make police officers. Those that are any good can be promoted if they want to earn more - a novel idea. NY police positions are alwyas massively over applied for so there is room...

Also they are recruiting specials which should help.
Oh yeah the ox, the pubs are doing really well at the moment in North Yorkshire.... Why don't we cut public sector holidays to the statutory minimum and lower wages back to a realistic level to pay for more officers? Surely some of these people on benefits can make police officers. Those that are any good can be promoted if they want to earn more - a novel idea. NY police positions are alwyas massively over applied for so there is room... Also they are recruiting specials which should help. Roger S

10:14am Wed 15 Jan 14

tricky1992000 says...

Cut Police overtime (it's an extreme amount), and use that money to recruit more police officers... Next problem please.
Cut Police overtime (it's an extreme amount), and use that money to recruit more police officers... Next problem please. tricky1992000

10:19am Wed 15 Jan 14

The OX says...

Roger S wrote:
Oh yeah the ox, the pubs are doing really well at the moment in North Yorkshire....

Why don't we cut public sector holidays to the statutory minimum and lower wages back to a realistic level to pay for more officers?

Surely some of these people on benefits can make police officers. Those that are any good can be promoted if they want to earn more - a novel idea. NY police positions are alwyas massively over applied for so there is room...

Also they are recruiting specials which should help.
They make the problem of needing more police, so they should pay, I no what can be made and what profit can be made, some with a gross profit of 56%, GP
So someone who never goes in to town drinking should have to pay for more police dont think thats right, do you ??
[quote][p][bold]Roger S[/bold] wrote: Oh yeah the ox, the pubs are doing really well at the moment in North Yorkshire.... Why don't we cut public sector holidays to the statutory minimum and lower wages back to a realistic level to pay for more officers? Surely some of these people on benefits can make police officers. Those that are any good can be promoted if they want to earn more - a novel idea. NY police positions are alwyas massively over applied for so there is room... Also they are recruiting specials which should help.[/p][/quote]They make the problem of needing more police, so they should pay, I no what can be made and what profit can be made, some with a gross profit of 56%, GP So someone who never goes in to town drinking should have to pay for more police dont think thats right, do you ?? The OX

10:26am Wed 15 Jan 14

PKH says...

Roger S wrote:
Oh yeah the ox, the pubs are doing really well at the moment in North Yorkshire....

Why don't we cut public sector holidays to the statutory minimum and lower wages back to a realistic level to pay for more officers?

Surely some of these people on benefits can make police officers. Those that are any good can be promoted if they want to earn more - a novel idea. NY police positions are alwyas massively over applied for so there is room...

Also they are recruiting specials which should help.
The rural pubs may be struggling, but a lot those in York with the hotels who encourage stag and hen party's are raking it in, and it is using police resources to deal with the ensuing problems they cause.
[quote][p][bold]Roger S[/bold] wrote: Oh yeah the ox, the pubs are doing really well at the moment in North Yorkshire.... Why don't we cut public sector holidays to the statutory minimum and lower wages back to a realistic level to pay for more officers? Surely some of these people on benefits can make police officers. Those that are any good can be promoted if they want to earn more - a novel idea. NY police positions are alwyas massively over applied for so there is room... Also they are recruiting specials which should help.[/p][/quote]The rural pubs may be struggling, but a lot those in York with the hotels who encourage stag and hen party's are raking it in, and it is using police resources to deal with the ensuing problems they cause. PKH

10:43am Wed 15 Jan 14

courier46 says...

Kevin Turvey wrote:
Or better still if your role of ‘Police and Crime Commissioner’ was removed with all its overheads of your high salary, swanky office space, admin support, expense account and no need for the cost of an election to the post etc., they or at least some of the number could be provided for with the existing budget at no extra burden to the already over stretched councilWell said Kevin,waste of money.
Also if her tory pals hadn`t cut so many police we wouldn`t need to be paying for more now.
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Turvey[/bold] wrote: Or better still if your role of ‘Police and Crime Commissioner’ was removed with all its overheads of your high salary, swanky office space, admin support, expense account and no need for the cost of an election to the post etc., they or at least some of the number could be provided for with the existing budget at no extra burden to the already over stretched councilWell said Kevin,waste of money. Also if her tory pals hadn`t cut so many police we wouldn`t need to be paying for more now. courier46

10:46am Wed 15 Jan 14

courier46 says...

Kevin Turvey wrote:
Or better still if your role of ‘Police and Crime Commissioner’ was removed with all its overheads of your high salary, swanky office space, admin support, expense account and no need for the cost of an election to the post etc., they or at least some of the number could be provided for with the existing budget at no extra burden to the already over stretched councilWell said Kevin,waste of money.
Also if her tory pals hadn`t cut so many police we wouldn`t need to be paying for more now.
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Turvey[/bold] wrote: Or better still if your role of ‘Police and Crime Commissioner’ was removed with all its overheads of your high salary, swanky office space, admin support, expense account and no need for the cost of an election to the post etc., they or at least some of the number could be provided for with the existing budget at no extra burden to the already over stretched councilWell said Kevin,waste of money. Also if her tory pals hadn`t cut so many police we wouldn`t need to be paying for more now. courier46

11:00am Wed 15 Jan 14

The Great Buda says...

chelk wrote:
Kevin Turvey wrote:
Or better still if your role of ‘Police and Crime Commissioner’ was removed with all its overheads of your high salary, swanky office space, admin support, expense account and no need for the cost of an election to the post etc., they or at least some of the number could be provided for with the existing budget at no extra burden to the already over stretched council tax payer.

Your role is not front line policing so should be the first to go for cost savings.

That is the reality.
My thoughts as well her position is not needed
She has no mandate from the Public, yet is happy to spend our money.

She should resign.
[quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kevin Turvey[/bold] wrote: Or better still if your role of ‘Police and Crime Commissioner’ was removed with all its overheads of your high salary, swanky office space, admin support, expense account and no need for the cost of an election to the post etc., they or at least some of the number could be provided for with the existing budget at no extra burden to the already over stretched council tax payer. Your role is not front line policing so should be the first to go for cost savings. That is the reality.[/p][/quote]My thoughts as well her position is not needed[/p][/quote]She has no mandate from the Public, yet is happy to spend our money. She should resign. The Great Buda

12:56pm Wed 15 Jan 14

brownsoundz says...

could they just train up the comunity support officers to be proper police? They just seem to liesurely cycle about without a care in the world.
could they just train up the comunity support officers to be proper police? They just seem to liesurely cycle about without a care in the world. brownsoundz

1:20pm Wed 15 Jan 14

tricky1992000 says...

brownsoundz wrote:
could they just train up the comunity support officers to be proper police? They just seem to liesurely cycle about without a care in the world.
They should sack the community support officers, and instead have paid specials.
[quote][p][bold]brownsoundz[/bold] wrote: could they just train up the comunity support officers to be proper police? They just seem to liesurely cycle about without a care in the world.[/p][/quote]They should sack the community support officers, and instead have paid specials. tricky1992000

1:32pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

I see more police trying to catch speeders then helping the community. Maybe if they actually stuck to crime they could better resource their force! Then again it would take away their main income source and they'd actually have to do some work rather then sitting in a van on the internet.
I see more police trying to catch speeders then helping the community. Maybe if they actually stuck to crime they could better resource their force! Then again it would take away their main income source and they'd actually have to do some work rather then sitting in a van on the internet. Archiebold the 1st

3:50pm Wed 15 Jan 14

YorkPatrol says...

Just reduce the number of overpaid back office staff. Start with the IT department..
Just reduce the number of overpaid back office staff. Start with the IT department.. YorkPatrol

6:38pm Wed 15 Jan 14

RooBeck says...

Mrs. Mulligan should firstly look at the functions within her own offices, then her executive officers, then senior managers and seek to reduce their numbers before imposing more council-tax hikes, which the majority of people find more and more unaffordable. There is a great deal of overlapping and tandem responsibilities within the police, so root these out and save the money in this way. It is too easy to impose these local charges - even for Tory led authorities - and though front-line police would be welcomed (they seem rarer than hens teeth), these revenues usually end up in the wrong areas, not least in the financing of the ever confusing and un-necessary role of the P&CC.
Mrs. Mulligan should firstly look at the functions within her own offices, then her executive officers, then senior managers and seek to reduce their numbers before imposing more council-tax hikes, which the majority of people find more and more unaffordable. There is a great deal of overlapping and tandem responsibilities within the police, so root these out and save the money in this way. It is too easy to impose these local charges - even for Tory led authorities - and though front-line police would be welcomed (they seem rarer than hens teeth), these revenues usually end up in the wrong areas, not least in the financing of the ever confusing and un-necessary role of the P&CC. RooBeck

1:41pm Thu 16 Jan 14

m dee says...

Roger S wrote:
Oh yeah the ox, the pubs are doing really well at the moment in North Yorkshire....

Why don't we cut public sector holidays to the statutory minimum and lower wages back to a realistic level to pay for more officers?

Surely some of these people on benefits can make police officers. Those that are any good can be promoted if they want to earn more - a novel idea. NY police positions are alwyas massively over applied for so there is room...

Also they are recruiting specials which should help.
This is from a article in 2013
North Yorkshire Police said there had been 122 incidents connected to McDonald’s over 17 months.
That is from one business premises involving drunks,so you can easily work out where many of the resources are used,why bill the residents the drunkards and associated businesses should cough up.
[quote][p][bold]Roger S[/bold] wrote: Oh yeah the ox, the pubs are doing really well at the moment in North Yorkshire.... Why don't we cut public sector holidays to the statutory minimum and lower wages back to a realistic level to pay for more officers? Surely some of these people on benefits can make police officers. Those that are any good can be promoted if they want to earn more - a novel idea. NY police positions are alwyas massively over applied for so there is room... Also they are recruiting specials which should help.[/p][/quote]This is from a article in 2013 North Yorkshire Police said there had been 122 incidents connected to McDonald’s over 17 months. That is from one business premises involving drunks,so you can easily work out where many of the resources are used,why bill the residents the drunkards and associated businesses should cough up. m dee

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